Please Discuss

[dcseain]

I opine that béchamel sauce = milk gravy - that the two are one and the same.

I also opine that sauce is subset of gravy and vice versa.

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[perlandria.livejournal.com]

béchamel sauce = milk gravy + nutmeg

[theentwife.livejournal.com]

I consider gravies to be a subset of sauces, since to me a gravy is a sauce made from the pan-juices of a cooked meat dish.

This terminology discrepancy may be due to regional nomenclature differences.


Persephone

[elegaer.livejournal.com]

Agreed here :)

[thespian.livejournal.com]

that was what I clicked through to opine.

I agree!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm going to agree with you, only because I want it to be true. I have no problem making my own gravy, but I'm deathly afraid of attempting a béchamel. If you're right then I have nothing to fear. :-)

The sauce - gravy relationship goes without saying.

FranMag

[elric-dewisant.livejournal.com]

I would have said that Gravy is a heartier, more fatty subset of sauces and whereas for me sauces are resonably easy to make, gravy is a complete pain in that ass that I struggled with until I gave up and went back to sauces.

I'm sure my 1961 Larousse Gastronomique will angrily disagree with me. so I'll go hug my Fannie farmer.

[(Anonymous)]

lil*monkey here... I'm no Chef. But here's my 2 cents. Bechemal sauce sounds swanky. You start with roux.
Milk gravy sounds hillbilly or country. You start with the grease left after frying sausage.
Bechamel YES Milk gravy EW

[dcseain.livejournal.com]

I said Milk Gravy, not Sausage Gravy; they be related, but different beasts.

[nancylebov.livejournal.com]

To my mind, gravy requires meat juice, or at least a reasonable simulation thereof.

Bechamel is a sauce, not a gravy.

Weirdly, a sauce or gravy has to be served in a fairly small proportion compared to the food under it. I'm kind of forced to called the thick liquids which are part of common Indian entrees sauces, but I don't really think of them as sauces.

In South Philadelphia, spaghetti sauce is called gravy, but this still sounds weird to me.