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dcseain ([personal profile] dcseain) wrote2007-11-12 11:48 pm

Sing, Sing a Song...

Kenny Rogers' The Gambler came on the radio while i was on the way to work. Singing along with it took me back 16 years, to my many weekend visits to Cornell, where a lot of my friends went to school. Where I would stand in the stairwell of the North Campus student union and sing country and western standards while other danced. Happy times that. I don't get to sing enough nowadays.

[identity profile] acelightning.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
As you may know, I used to be a country and western DJ - and I've got a head stuffed full of just about every song (country, rock, and anything else) I've ever heard. Maybe next year at That Pagan Festival, we can go out into the woods and serenade the trees with old Hank Williams tunes...

[identity profile] dcseain.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
That could be much fun. We'll see how next year works out. :)

[identity profile] acelightning.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
And I can always fake an alto part to just about any simple melody...

"The silence of a fallin' star
Lights up a purple sky,
And, as I wonder where you are,
I'm so lonesome I could cry..."

[identity profile] forexample.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
While I'm not a country and western fan I can get into Hank Williams.

(What's the difference between country and western, by the way?)

[identity profile] acelightning.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Originally (from the very first recordings in the early 20th century, up through the 1950s), "country" was "hillbilly music" - Appalachian ballads, bluegrass, barn dancing, that sort of thing. "Western" was cowboy songs. There was enough overlap that they often got lumped together. Slowly, cowboy music went out of fashion, and country music absorbed more and more elements of whatever popular music was doing at any given time. However, country music would also go through periodic cycles of "going back to its roots", which usually involved re-introducing twangy guitars, pedal steel guitar, and fiddle, along with nasal hillbilly voices. (And an awful lot of heavy metal songs could be country songs with nothing but a change in the instrumentation - take away the fuzztone, add twang, maybe slow it down a touch.)

[identity profile] dcseain.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
You left out what, to me, is another key difference: Western yodels, Country doesn't.

[identity profile] acelightning.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
I was about to say that that may have been true early on, but yodeling eventually crossed over into country as well. And then I remembered Jimmy Rodgers, the Singing Brakeman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_Rodgers_%28country_singer%29), sometimes also known as "The Father Of Country Music", who was known for his distinctive "blue yodels". So country music included yodeling from the beginning. I think even ole Hank yodeled once in a while, although that might have been in his "Luke The Drifter" persona.

(Incidentally, I can't yodel.)

[identity profile] dcseain.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent point! I'd forgotten about Appalachie yodelling. Though Western yodel and country yodel do differ, if have overlap in TX/OK region. You won't get features like '...out in the West Texas wi-i-i-i-ind...' in country, that musical ornamation is a direct descendent of Westen Yodel. You'll find such features in Linda Ronstadt's work and in Mexican Mariachi and Folklorico works also, among others, which of course has a common root with Western. Blues/Appalacie yodel is more true yodel, but more of the Germanic tradition, or do you disagree?

[identity profile] acelightning.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
It's unclear where the yodeling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodel) in both Appalachian and Western music came from. There were undoubtedly Germanic settlers in Appalachia... but Mexico was a German colony for a significant time ("¡Adiós, Mama Carlota!"). I suspect both American yodeling styles are ultimately Germanic in origin, but evolved along slightly different paths before converging again.

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2007-11-13 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not much for country and western but yay for sudden happy reminisces!

I lived in Donlon Hall from fall 1992-1993, and Dickson from 1993-1994, so I spent a *lot* of time going up and down the stairs of Robert Purcell Community Center (which is what the student union got renamed, I believe in '92).

Any chance you knew Jennifer Johnson, Kate Brody, Alex Benton, or Viv Holt? Jen is/was Pagan and graduated in 95 or so. They were the more musical friends I knew from then who were older than I.

Or, for that matter, did you ever wind up at the Prospect of Whitby housing co-op? (Dave *mumble something* was a folk musician who lived there and had a cluster of musician friends...)

[identity profile] dcseain.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
My friends all lived in Umoja and Donlon, and graduated in `92, though Kate Brody's name is familiar. So mayhap, but i don't right recall.

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Kate was my Resident Advisor, and we stayed in touch (we travelled in the same Queer/geek circles) until she moved to Israel in '96 or so.

There was another gay geeky RA who I was friends with, but I don't remember his name. (We ran a local Amiga Developer's Group).

And everyone I knew in Uj was younger than that. :)

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

[identity profile] selki.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I could host a Soup and Sing evening. I make soup, people bring or make soup, and then we sing. December?

Or I could just host a sing.

:D

[identity profile] dcseain.livejournal.com 2007-11-14 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Saturday the 8th? The soup part is much fun.

Re: :D

[identity profile] selki.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
The 8th will not work for me; I'm going to Jazzfish's Reading party (http://jazzfish.livejournal.com/321084.html) (bring short works for reading aloud; your own, or pieces you like by others). There had been discussion about whether to have it on the 1st or the 8th, but the 8th is what they went with.

Also, I'm going to the Conservatory Christmas dance on the 15th. Are Saturdays better for you? Would the 1st work?

Re: :D

[identity profile] dcseain.livejournal.com 2007-11-16 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I have the following Saturday/Sunday free at current: 8/9 Dec, 22/23 Dec, 5/6 Jan, 2/3 Feb, 15/16 Feb. I work the weekends in between.